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Hate the media

CNN Headline News just now:

One of their "journalists" is doing a piece about protests. They show a bunch of people in Australia going off over the fact that they're going to send 2000 soldiers to Iraq.

She talked about how a poll from a few months ago showed 75% of Australians were opposed to the war. The rest of this is directly quoted from her:

"A recent poll now shows that 50% of Australians SUPPORT the war. So, just because you see all those protests doesn't mean they're the majority."

FUCK YOU, CNN. That's the most flimsy, unnecessary, and obviously pro-war statement an allegedly unbiased journalist could make.

Man, I wish The Daily Show was doing 24 hour coverage. I mean, they're obviously biased too, but at least if you flipped back and forth from Daily Show to CNN, you'd get some semblance of balance.

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asteroidbelt
Mar. 26th, 2003 10:24 am (UTC)
don't you get an canadian news down there??
vespa59
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:25 am (UTC)
Hmmm... I don't think so... I have DirecTV with some uh... extras.... so it might be on there somewhere. Actually, I might be able to rig it so I can get the Vancouver local channels, but that probably wouldn't help much...

Stupid TV
crankyisgood
Mar. 26th, 2003 11:31 am (UTC)
50% in support is not a majority, either. Fucking idiots.

I violently dented the casing of my television late Saturday night when the smug newscaster wrapped up her report on a pro-troops demonstration in Bellevue with: "They were organized, and they stayed on the sidewalks."

And I'm even more angry since then, since I have learned about the Seattle police's behavior that day--really, minutes after I left the Federal Building. You couldn't see in the earlier part of the aforementioned newscast that the police had pulled people into the street. That one cop bounced the front wheel of her bike up and down on the back of a dog (this was reported at the City Council hearing yesterday). That it was even fucking daylight when the march ON THE SIDEWALK occured.

Then again I haven't even been trying to tune into the programming at the very place I work (KCTS). Truth is, I didn't mean to watch that newscast at all. It came on as a repeat after a repeat of "News Radio."

(oh, and hello. i recently added you after reading a comment you made in bixie's journal.)
rzr_grl
Mar. 26th, 2003 12:59 pm (UTC)
And with statistical error, it very well may be the majority still.

In fact, "confidence level" of a point estimate is near zero. Only with interval estimates incorporating the margin of error does the confidence level reach the pollsters' standard 95%.

But that wouldn't make her point, now would it?
Gah.

(Hi. i'm studying statistics, and i'm bitter.)
crankyisgood
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:22 pm (UTC)
Huh. I suddenly wish I knew what "Only with interval estimates incorporating the margin of error does the confidence level reach the pollsters' standard 95%" means. I'm capable of understanding it, I'm confident, but... actually I am going to see if I can figure out what "interval estimates" are then I think I'll have it nailed.

(it wasn't bixie. it was bizetsy. sorry, typing problems.)

(i like bitterness in spite of the fact mark eitzel says it poisons the soul. he's talking about love, not politics.)

(looks like if i REALLY want to know, i'll spend my afternoon reading this instead of whatever it was i was going to do instead.)
rzr_grl
Mar. 26th, 2003 01:34 pm (UTC)
Oh my god, I've been studying too much. I can't believe I posted something unintelligible that made perfect sense to me.

It's really easy, actually, when I'm not talking all geek-like.

Point estimates are things like "50%." A single number.

You think if you asked everyone you'd get exactly 50% ? Nope, no way. So, you end up with an interval estimate: 50%, plus or minus 5%; "45% - 55% of people oppose the war."

Pollsters typically want that interval to be accurate for 95% of people.

Too bad i'm not graded on LJ posts! (Wait, no, I take that back.)
crankyisgood
Mar. 26th, 2003 02:02 pm (UTC)
thank you! re-reading the sentence, i now know what you mean!

how often do you think the polls are that accurate?
rockstarbob
Mar. 26th, 2003 12:40 pm (UTC)
I find that getting news from the TV is pretty useless.

I like to get my news from a variety of internet sources. Sometimes I read CNN. A lot of the time I read the BBC, the CBC (Canada) or IndyMedia (of which there is also a Seattle version).

IndyMedia lists these alternative news sources, too.

Sometimes -- OK, most of the time -- you just gotta shut off the TV, mang.
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